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There’s something going on in church circles that really has me confused. It happens when a minister or pastor commits adultery and is fired from their church, especially if the person had fairly high profile. The first thing that happens is people generally choose one of two teams.

The first team is the “the Bible says don’t judge” team. They don’t want the person to suffer any significant consequences. Usually because their lives have been touched in a significant way by the work of the pastor. But this isn’t biblical. The bible is very clear that pastors/elders/leaders are held to a higher standard. Which is how it should be.

The second team is the “this person is permanently removed from leadership” team. They think that it’s a one strike and you’re out policy. In their minds the pastor is benched forever.

OK, that’s all fine, but it’s what happens next that confuses me. If the pastor/minister begins to rebuild his life, especially if he/she talks about it online, there is a group of people who get ticked off. I mean furious. They say things like “He hasn’t really repented” or “I don’t see any outward evidence that he’s sorry” or my personal favorite “he’s not sorry that he did it, he’s just sorry that he got caught”. There’s an underlying theme to every comment: he’s not sorry enough.

In the Old Testament people would put on sackcloth and pour ashes on their heads to show their sorrow and repentance. I get the impression that there are some people who want a 2010 equivalent.

I’ve got two friends who have been through this. One was very prominent because he pastored a mega-church. The other was prominent because he was very active blogging and on Twitter and he lead a new church that was exploding.

Both guys had adulterous affairs. Both were fired. Both lost their wives. Both did significant damage to their children. Both have publicly confessed. Both will forever deal with the consequences of their adultery.

Both also are back leading churches. They are also both back in the internet public eye. They are trying to rebuild their lives and there are significant numbers of people who are ticked off because they are.

I’ve seen posts online about each of these guys that have this undercurrent of “he’s not sorry enough” and I don’t understand that sentiment. There also seems to be a punitive theme to the comments. They want these pastors to suffer. I can’t speak for every pastor who’s have an affair but I know my two friends have suffered and continue to suffer, but they are not going to let that define them. They are trying to move on and tell people about Jesus.

I think the problem is that too many church folks have forgotten about Scripture really teaches about repentance and sin. We’ve forgotten that Jesus told a woman caught in the very act of adultery to go and sin no more. We’ve forgotten that God is the only one to really know the condition of a human heart. But mostly what these folks are saying by their actions is that we don’t trust God to handle the situation and He needs us to step in for Him. Believe me, that’s the last thing He needs. God has shown Himself capable of disciplining His kids for thousands of years. He’ll deal with people who haven’t really repented, so we are free to re-purpose our time for more Kingdom minded pursuits.

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If you study American history, especially the origins of our country, you’ll discover that people actually used to be able to be in the same room and passionately disagree with each other.  When the founding fathers were debating how to best deal with King George some thought the way to go was to remain part of the British Empire, while others wanted to break away and start something new. Intense debates happened over and over between friends and even family members, but when they were over there weren’t grudges, nobody was breaking off life long relationships, and there weren’t calls for somebody to get fired.

Sadly, somewhere along the way, the art of dissent has been lost. Nobody knows how to disagree agreeably anymore. Now days it’s all about extremes. Extreme opinions, extreme opposing opinions, all expressed at extreme volume.  That’s sad because a lot of great ideas and initiatives have never gotten off of the ground because the disagreements got so heated people said “forget it, it’s not worth it.“

The problem is this is way of disagreeing gets reinforced because all people see on TV or read in the paper are folks who don’t know how to disagree. Dissent doesn’t get big ratings or sell papers so talk show hosts and bloggers go ballistic over every issue.

So how does a person disagree disagreeably? Here are few guidelines.

  1. Listen- Most people don’t really listen to the other person. Instead they are forming their response before the other person has even finished talking.
  2. Wait until you’re calm- It’s almost impossible to have a reasoned discussion if your emotions are in overdrive.
  3. Be respectful-No name calling, no character assassination. Give the other person the benefit of the doubt.
  4. Speak only for yourself-Don’t take up the offenses of others. One big reason is there are two sides to every story and there’s nothing more embarrassing than having to retract stuff you’ve said because you found out the rest of the story.
  5. Don’t interrogate-Keep your Joe Friday in check.
  6. State the facts-Stay on topic.
  7. Go one-on-one-Keep it between you and the other person. Don’t bring others into the disagreement who aren’t part of the issue.

This works in the marketplace, politics, or the church. How different would your relationships be if you started to cultivate the art of dissent?

So how do you handle dissent?

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